Passage
He that descended is the same who has also ascended up above all the heavens, that he might fill all things;
He that descended is the same who has also ascended up above all the heavens, that he might fill all things;
Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he says, Having ascended up on high, he has led captivity captive, and has given gifts to men.
Ephesians 4:9 But that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth?
Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same who has also ascended up above all the heavens, that he might fill all things;
Ephesians 4:11 and *he* has given some apostles, and some prophets, and some evangelists, and some shepherds and teachers,
Ephesians 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints; with a view to [the] work of [the] ministry, with a view to the edifying of the body of Christ;
The verse centers on "all things", "descended", "same", "ascended", "above", "heavens", "might", and "fill". It is saying that the verse draws attention to "all things" and "descended", so its meaning should be read from those terms before moving to application.
The nearby context moves from verse 9's "But that he ascended what is it..." into verse 11's "and he has given some apostles and...", so "all things" and "descended" belong inside that flow. In Ephesians context, the local focus is grace, union with Christ, the church, and new creation.
A plain takeaway is to answer the verse's own emphasis on "all things" and "descended" with trust shaped by these words, not by a vague optimism outside the passage.